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counterattack
12-15-2005, 12:32 PM
Hey Jazz and others 617 Christmas party is saturday at the Brandford Manor 8pm - 2am all are invited come celebrate the holidays with us you know how we get down.
RACEMATTERS
12-15-2005, 01:32 PM
Hope I get to meet your mini-mes posing for you on this forum. Make sure you buy me my drink. Happy Holidays. :D
counterattack
12-15-2005, 03:58 PM
Hope I get to meet your mini-mes posing for you on this forum. Make sure you buy me my drink. Happy Holidays. :D


until you get who I am right your not invited, by the way we don't sell drinks it's open bar.
rice2006
12-15-2005, 03:59 PM
What is the "damage" ($$$) to get in? I am definitely trying to get my swerve on (is my age showing?). :D
counterattack
12-15-2005, 04:00 PM
What is the "damage" ($$$) to get in? I am definitely trying to get my swerve on (is my age showing?). :D


You know your Rocks guest, but to all others free for members 15 for guest.
rice2006
12-15-2005, 04:21 PM
Tell Rock I said thanks and I will see him about 10:00 ish...
Klap Bak
12-16-2005, 10:36 AM
Does that include those pesky Bookerites?????
counterattack
12-16-2005, 11:32 AM
Does that include those pesky Bookerites?????


we welcome all to celebrate the holidays with us we will have plenty of time to fight next year.
5Reasons
12-16-2005, 11:33 AM
Counter,

Can I get a comp ticket?
counterattack
12-16-2005, 11:59 AM
Counter,

Can I get a comp ticket?


There are no tickets for the event members just have to show their id to get in but if you come with Ron I will make sure Rock get's you in.
TE2
12-16-2005, 02:08 PM
I"ll be there and I"m bringing Lucy Lu:D :D :D
ProSouth
12-16-2005, 06:48 PM
I"ll be there and I"m bringing Lucy Lu:D :D :D:eek: You guys having multiple personality crossdressers at the party? I'll stay home.:eek:
TE2
12-16-2005, 09:46 PM
Now you get it Pro that was funny finally. I knew in this holiday season you could make someone smile:D
jazzyken
12-19-2005, 09:53 AM
Sorry Counter missed the party this year! Hubby was sick and now I am sick!! How was it? Last year was off the hook. I had a ball last year was this year up to par!?
rice2006
12-19-2005, 09:55 AM
Counter, please give my apologies to Rock. My allergies (sinuses) were killing me and I just stayed in bed on Saturday. I know it was great.
counterattack
12-19-2005, 02:50 PM
Sorry Counter missed the party this year! Hubby was sick and now I am sick!! How was it? Last year was off the hook. I had a ball last year was this year up to par!?


JAZZ, RON THE PARTY WAS OFF THE HOOK WE HAD A MUCH LARGER FACILITY THIS YEAR AND ABOUT 800 MEMBERS AND FRIENDS SHOWED UP PARTIED UNTIL 2:00AM IN THE MORNING.
RACEMATTERS
12-19-2005, 02:56 PM
The party was off the hook!:D But I must say with all the "inner circle" city hall employees retiring or taking positions in Trenton or elsewhere it was more like a party for the last time, ergo retirement party. :eek:
counterattack
12-19-2005, 03:06 PM
The party was off the hook!:D But I must say with all the "inner circle" city hall employees retiring or taking positions in Trenton or elsewhere it was more like a party for the last time, ergo retirement party. :eek:

EVERY YEAR OUR PARTY IS OFF THE HOOK AND NAME ONE PERSON THAT WAS THERE FROM CITY HALL WHO WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE LOCAL AND ARE RETIRING.
LastCubanStanding
12-19-2005, 03:31 PM
What's your take on the NYC TWU that is going to strand 7 million NYC residents tomorrow morning? They have been interviewing the rank-and-file and they don't seem to supportive of the union.
counterattack
12-19-2005, 03:47 PM
What's your take on the NYC TWU that is going to strand 7 million NYC residents tomorrow morning? They have been interviewing the rank-and-file and they don't seem to supportive of the union.


As a person who works with the union I would say that strikes are the only bargaining chip that a union has to negotiate good contracts and they should be supported by rank and file. The problem is that the rules are a lil different for public workers and there are extreme consequences to a strike and that may be why you have members who are not as supportive of it in addition to times be rough.

What members need to remember is that "the people united will never be defeated".
LastCubanStanding
12-19-2005, 03:51 PM
But I have a problem with stranding 7 million people in the cold right before Christmas.
Klap Bak
12-19-2005, 04:07 PM
At what point does a contract go from being good to over the top. Some of these Unions are really over the top and their main interests is MONEY. Nothing else.

I have a friend who belongs to a Union on his job. As a result of an accident he was out of work for a long time. Too long, they fired him from the job. They thought he was goofing off. Now here we are months later and they are in arbitration, he will probably get his job back and the Company will have to give him back pay for the time he was out.

In all honesty, this cat deserved to be fired. He was goofing off big time for months. There was nothing wrong with him by his own admission. Exactly what is the Union fighting for here?
counterattack
12-19-2005, 11:07 PM
At what point does a contract go from being good to over the top. Some of these Unions are really over the top and their main interests is MONEY. Nothing else.

I have a friend who belongs to a Union on his job. As a result of an accident he was out of work for a long time. Too long, they fired him from the job. They thought he was goofing off. Now here we are months later and they are in arbitration, he will probably get his job back and the Company will have to give him back pay for the time he was out.

In all honesty, this cat deserved to be fired. He was goofing off big time for months. There was nothing wrong with him by his own admission. Exactly what is the Union fighting for here?


The right of the member to have a second chance, unions are no different than attorneys a criminal is afforded innocent before guilty why not a worker and what is wrong with having a second chance to clean up a mistake after all none of us are perfect.
Insideout
12-19-2005, 11:22 PM
The right of the member to have a second chance, unions are no different than attorneys a criminal is afforded innocent before guilty why not a worker and what is wrong with having a second chance to clean up a mistake after all none of us are perfect.Also, there are always going to be people (a few minority) who abuse the system making it harder for everyone else (most law abiding citizens). We can't, therefore, abolish systems that are designed to protect workers from being exploited, just because a small minority will take advantage of that same system for their own personal greed. Ultimately, those people get caught anyway.
Klap Bak
12-20-2005, 07:05 AM
I fully understand the need for second chances and the need to protect workers rights (I once tried to organize for a Union at a workplace that sorely needed it) but which arm of the Union actually investigates if the worker is abusive? Do they just protect and defend without full knowledge of the circumstances???? And if they do, are they right?
counterattack
12-20-2005, 10:38 AM
I fully understand the need for second chances and the need to protect workers rights (I once tried to organize for a Union at a workplace that sorely needed it) but which arm of the Union actually investigates if the worker is abusive? Do they just protect and defend without full knowledge of the circumstances???? And if they do, are they right?


I will be the first to tell you that some members go to far and may need discipline but this is not up to the union to determine. The union has no choice but to come to the defense of the worker rather they are right or wrong hopefully though if the Union knows the employee is wrong they would counsel the worker before and after they have represented him/her as to where the consequences of their constent behavior will lead them in future offenses.