Newark Cops and Drug Dealer Scandal is Getting Larger

[5Reasons]

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-7/1096260711323880.xml

For a police force that has had to endure more than its fair share of scandals, they better brace themselves - this one is going to get hot.

This is what happens when you have too many burbarians working on the force. Only Newarkers can care and protect Newarkers.

[black4rob2]

Just about 90% of the members of this forum including myself are always complaining about the ills of this city, and this is the biggest reason why we have all the problems we do now. The very people that we entrust to help curb the problems we have here are the ones who are spraying gasoline into the already 4 alarm blaze that this city is engulfed in. I originally posted this on the Essex County Forum on NJ.com and it seems as though it is just going to keep on getting reposted because this problem is constantly festering... I know that their are cops or al least retired cops on this forum...I really do care for your input as you are the ones with first hand knowledge whether just witnessing or one of the actual scums on the force I await your response.

. Issues Killing Us!
by Black4rob2, 8/26/04 13:00 ET

The problem that Newark, Irvington, and East Orange is facing today is a combination of many aspects of life that we as a community have forgotten. Instead we have become the community that enjoys pointing the finger at others for the problems that we face whether it be personal or communal. The rise in crime is not to be exclusively blamed or narrowed down to one person or one particular group, but instead all.

1.Politicians: As evident by are state and local leaders we live in a land filled with corruption. Whether it be politicians, police officers, or teachers; but it seems as though every where we turn there is someone out there trying to benefit themselves while neglecting there duties. Think about the Gov, the Newark police shakedowns, and you can see how all of the corruption just trickles down the hierarchy.

2.Parents: Growing up in Irvington with immigrant parents was not an easy at all. It wasn’t easy for my siblings nor was it easy for my parents, especially trying to raise seven children in an apartment working in factories in a new land. Looking at me now you would never know where I came from, because I always had a parent looking out for my best interest. When I got home from school there was plenty for me to do. Clean the house, eat food that my mom left for me, get my homework done, etc. I knew that if I didn’t do what I was suppose to, that it would be my a$$. My parents took a proactive stance in my life and made sure I wasn’t doing wrong. We can’t expect our kids to go to school, come back, and become geniuses without helping out that process. Instead, we blame the teachers for not educating them, and get pissed off at the system.

3.Recreational Programs: Where are they? The sad thing is that they do exist, but not enough information is going out to the kids and their parents informing them of programs that are Free and beneficial on multiple capacities. For the single parent, parents working night shifts, for the bored kids…there are programs that can allow them to grow and at the same time provide a safe recreational atmosphere that encourages education and working with others. We need more of that.

4.Police: We love blaming them. Visiting different forums, particularly Irvington, you can see that we have a huge problem with the police that we have here. Many take money, many sell drugs, many sit in their cars at the shell gas station, Kleiss Diner, Don’s Diner, McDonald's on Mulberry, Sights, etc. But not all are bad, corrupt, or shady. First of all many departments are understaffed especially for the types of criminals they are dealing with today, but they definitely need are help in trying to protect us. We can’t just sit back and let them do all the work and expect it to get done overnight. They need are help by controlling your kids by just taking an active approach in their lives. By helping them stay off the streets to sell drugs, steal cars and rob people. The police needs your eyes because they can not see everything on their on. Sure there are a few rotten apples in the police force in New Jersey as a whole, but we can’t sit here and claim that they are all bad and that they don’t have their work cut out for them.

All I am saying is that times are bad right now in our cities and we need to help remedy the situation as oppose to pointing the finger and sitting on our a$$es. We need to start working on the true meaning of family and work from there. I encourage everyone instead of pointing the finger and complaining; give a suggestion as to how we can move in a positive direction. That’s the least we can do for ourselves and brothers and sisters.
Obviously it makes no sense to wait on a politician or a police officer because they all have their own agendas, which to me seems as though they are sticking to very well....
Peace.

[John Sharpe James, J.D.]

:D

[LtNPD]

All five officers involved DO reside in Newark, with the exception of one that lives in Irvington/Newark border...so please do not give the misconception that "burbarians" rob drug dealers....

[5Reasons]

Are you sure about that? Or are their Newark address just "paper"?

I firmly believe that ONLY Newarkers can move Newark forward. The burbarians treat police work in Newark like they're on safari. :rolleyes:

[John Sharpe James, J.D.]

That "Safari" comment was hilarious LMFAO :eek: :D :eek:

[ProSouth]

Officer Furlow lives in Vailsburg and is an a**-hole. He's a wanna-be brother who use to be an investigator at the Essex County Prosecutor's Office. He got fired from there and was hired by Newark PD (go figure). I can see him doing some dirty crap. Just my opinion.

[John Sharpe James, J.D.]

Lay off Furlow.....He didn't take your girl did he??? :D

[ProSouth]

The NPD's problems are their own doing. They do not operate with professionalism. They operate with revenge, malice, anger and an air of unfair and unequal prosecution. These actions are standard operation with the NPD.

1. The NPD make many arrests. But lose a large majority of their cases in court. Ask any criminal defense attorney who frequent Newark Municipal Court and they will tell you that if your are going to do a crime do it in Newark....Why?? Because usually the cop does something sloppy or may not even show and many cases are kicked due to a lack of prosecution.

2. Newark cops are vendictive. I remember a few years ago a case where a store owner on Avon Ave. applied for and got a restraining order against the NPD from coming near his business due to the harassment.
My man over at Sights complained for years about police harassment even going as far as filing a complaint with Internal Affairs. According to him nothing but more harassment took place. He says he even wrote letters to police and the Mayor about the harassment and again nothing was done.

3. Newark cops are kings of selective prosecution.

They are their own worst enemy and they make Newark look bad.

[ProSouth]

That tall linky chump couldn't take my three legged, blind in one eye, overweight dog if he was covered in steak and Alpo.

[John Sharpe James, J.D.]

:D :D :D

[LtNPD]

Are you sure about that? Or are their Newark address just "paper"?

I firmly believe that ONLY Newarkers can move Newark forward. The burbarians treat police work in Newark like they're on safari. :rolleyes:

lol, the safari thing is funny... I do know they live here because I worked the west for many years I never suspected any of them of doing such a stupid thing of course, but the plainclothes guys are usually not monitored the same as the uniformed cops...

[ProSouth]

Have you ever arrested or issued a summons to another Newark cop if you observed them breaking the law.

[LtNPD]

Actually that is not the exact procedure a superior would follow, an IOP report would be drawn (Investigation of personnel) with all details of the incident, this report is than forwarded to the internal affairs division for a complete (unbiased...) investigation, they would then follow up with criminal charges, summonses, and determine if this is a criminal or departmental infraction, and yes I have drawn many an IOP, if the officer was found guilty or not would be up to the Chief of Police once at Police Trial, or a Grand Jury...Ltnpd

[ProSouth]

Thank you for the procedural info. My point is how many police officers during your career have been arrested (not fired) for a crime after an "unbiased" investigation by Internal Affairs and then convicted?

[LtNPD]

actually there were many during Santiago's reign, but many officer also appealed the various convictions and got "off" through the NJ State Administration of Law hearing that can overturn City/Township ruling through civil service, you have to understand that the city of newark never fires any one right... Santiago would always jump the gun and not allow legal representation, the same any average joe is permited when being accused of a crime. I also noticed many people stating that Newark Police should be drug tested, I can't believe that people do not know that we are drug tested constantly through random computer generated testing, myself around eight times over the past 15 years. I want to know why elected officials are not tested just like us, these people are in charge of everyone and could be dirty, there have been cops that failed but because of political connections (or knowledge of wrongdoings) have gotten off (pensioned out).

[ProSouth]

But since the council is the body that would vote for their own randon drug tests we shouldn't hold our breath.

[Outside]

Actually that is not the exact procedure a superior would follow, an IOP report would be drawn (Investigation of personnel) with all details of the incident, this report is than forwarded to the internal affairs division for a complete (unbiased...) investigation, they would then follow up with criminal charges, summonses, and determine if this is a criminal or departmental infraction, and yes I have drawn many an IOP, if the officer was found guilty or not would be up to the Chief of Police once at Police Trial, or a Grand Jury...Ltnpd


Up to the chief of Police???

Is that the same guy who led another town PD on a chase and was arrested for drunk driving and resisting arrest amd assault and battery on police?

[ProSouth]

Up to the chief of Police???

Is that the same guy who led another town PD on a chase and was arrested for drunk driving and resisting arrest amd assault and battery on police?Yea that's him. Eventhough Bradley is not a good Chief of Police, that incident happened because he was Black. If Bradley was a white cop the incident would never have happened. Black cops who think they are "blue" and think that all cops are equal usually get a huge awakening at some point. The racism against Black officers within many police departments is so blatant and obvious. But many Blacks in these departments have no unity. NONE. And many Black cops begin to mimic white officers and superiors in how they treat their own. As long as they personally get blessed with a few crumbs from the table, they are not going to associate themselves with anything (especially anything Black) that will affect that.

[Outside]

I am sorry, I have a little trouble following you on this...

Did being black make Bradley flee from the police when they tried to pull him over??

[ProSouth]

I am sorry, I have a little trouble following you on this...

Did being black make Bradley flee from the police when they tried to pull him over??He did not flee the police. When the police approached him he was in his vehicle asleep and the vehicle was parked. Now the question should be, why was he approached period? And why was he not given the same "respect" and courtesy as other officers get?

[Outside]

ok, he was asleep in his car, which was parked.

So maybe the cops were checking on him, maybe he was in need of medical attention? Is it not ok for the police to check a guy out who is "asleep" in his parked auto, wherever that may have been?

But, if that is the case, then what happened....he started the car up and fled from the police, because they didnt give him "respect"?????

[ProSouth]

ok, he was asleep in his car, which was parked.

So maybe the cops were checking on him, maybe he was in need of medical attention? Is it not ok for the police to check a guy out who is "asleep" in his parked auto, wherever that may have been?

But, if that is the case, then what happened....he started the car up and fled from the police, because they didnt give him "respect"?????You obviously either posess something or lack something that clearly keeps you from either reading and/or understanding my post or from being able to see the obvious.

First: Maybe you should research some of my old posts here on Newark Speaks and educate yourself as to this issue.

Second, (and very slowly): I said in my previous post that he never FLED THE POLICE. And then you follow up with a post the said once again that he fled the police.

Third: Just in case you were not aware, we have the right to be left alone by the police unless and until there is probable cause that a crime has been committed.

Fourth: You post plenty of crime stories here on Newark Speaks. With all the drinking that police officers do, please post the articles of the white police officer in N.J. that were pulled over and arrested for drunk driving. I'm more than sure with all the drinking and driving they do that you can find many.

Fifth: The reason why you will have a hard time finding any is because police officers look out for police officers. Being "on the job" means not being treated like everybody else. The ignorance of this for Black officers is that many white officers have no respect for the Black officer. If you are Black you are just another nig*er, whether you are on the job or not.

Six: If the police thought he was in need of medical attention then once the ascertained that he was sleeping and did not need it why was he not left alone. Why was he not given the same coutesy that other white officers are given every day?

Seven: Like I said many times, I am not a fan of Chief Bradley, however, this incident took place because he is Black.

I await your response and the posting of articles of the white officers who were arrested for driving under the influence.

[LastCubanStanding]

I agree with you. Cops have a free pass to do just about anything they want to do....as do their famalies also, it seems. The PBA cards and shields hold a lot of weight. With regard to Bradley, and correct me if I am wrong, didn't fight with the offcers too? What was the final disposition of the case?

The last cops that were arrested were the Edison cops that were arrested for posing naked in a window of a motel. Also, the spokesman for the NJSP was locked up for DUI. Few and far between....

[ProSouth]

I agree with you. Cops have a free pass to do just about anything they want to do....as do their famalies also, it seems. The PBA cards and shields hold a lot of weight. With regard to Bradley, and correct me if I am wrong, didn't fight with the offcers too? What was the final disposition of the case?

The last cops that were arrested were the Edison cops that were arrested for posing naked in a window of a motel. Also, the spokesman for the NJSP was locked up for DUI. Few and far between....The disposition: Bradley got over. They ended up treating him just like a connected cop. Typical.

Yes, I believe he was initially charged with assaulting one of the officers.

[racist_redneck]

"Fifth: The reason why you will have a hard time finding any is because police officers look out for police officers. Being "on the job" means not being treated like everybody else. The ignorance of this for Black officers is that many white officers have no respect for the Black officer. If you are Black you are just another nig*er, whether you are on the job or not."

I actually generally agree with this statement......
Geesh, what kinda racist am I?

[WeCan]

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[Outside]

You obviously either posess something or lack something that clearly keeps you from either reading and/or understanding my post or from being able to see the obvious.

First: Maybe you should research some of my old posts here on Newark Speaks and educate yourself as to this issue.

Second, (and very slowly): I said in my previous post that he never FLED THE POLICE. And then you follow up with a post the said once again that he fled the police.

Third: Just in case you were not aware, we have the right to be left alone by the police unless and until there is probable cause that a crime has been committed.

Fourth: You post plenty of crime stories here on Newark Speaks. With all the drinking that police officers do, please post the articles of the white police officer in N.J. that were pulled over and arrested for drunk driving. I'm more than sure with all the drinking and driving they do that you can find many.

Fifth: The reason why you will have a hard time finding any is because police officers look out for police officers. Being "on the job" means not being treated like everybody else. The ignorance of this for Black officers is that many white officers have no respect for the Black officer. If you are Black you are just another nig*er, whether you are on the job or not.

Six: If the police thought he was in need of medical attention then once the ascertained that he was sleeping and did not need it why was he not left alone. Why was he not given the same coutesy that other white officers are given every day?

Seven: Like I said many times, I am not a fan of Chief Bradley, however, this incident took place because he is Black.

I await your response and the posting of articles of the white officers who were arrested for driving under the influence.



Wow, what a mouthful Pro...

1)Sorry, no desire to research your old posts to educate myself on this issue (by the way, were you there, in order to have this info to educate me?)

2)My recollection was "police chase", but I certainly could be wrong about that. You are saying...he was in a car, parked, right?

3)What law school did you go to again? ANY cop, ANYWHERE, can approach ANYBODY and ask them ANY questions they wish (go ahead, read that again....). We together again? Ok, lets proceed.

4)Could not find one story about white cops arrested for DWI in the latest 14 day archives of Ledger or Bergen Record (oddly enough, didnt find any story about black cops arrested for DWI either...)

5)See #4

6)Now it gets dicey...refer to #3 again to refresh..If what you say is accurate that he was parked somewhere sleeping one off, and the cop or cops knocked on his window to check on his condition and he wakes up and says "hey guys, I'm the NPD chief, just taking it easy for a minute...", we probably never hear of the incident, end of story.
Or, maybe they knocked on the window and were greeted with "what the fuk do you want? Dont you know who I am, I've dont more this year than you will do your whole career.." etc, etc.. Of course the cops are not going to take kindly to that and they will press the issue and win, which they did.
**I wasnt there, nor do I know anybody who was there, just painting a picture as to how things could easily spiral out of control..**

7)Any cop involved in incident as depicted above in #6 would have been on the wrong end of things, color has nothing to do with it.

[ProSouth]

You obviously don't have a clue.

1)Sorry, no desire to research your old posts to educate myself on this issue (by the way, were you there, in order to have this info to educate me?)

This case is very old news now and yes I do know a little about it.

2)My recollection was "police chase", but I certainly could be wrong about that. You are saying...he was in a car, parked, right?

Right

3)What law school did you go to again? ANY cop, ANYWHERE, can approach ANYBODY and ask them ANY questions they wish (go ahead, read that again....). We together again? Ok, lets proceed.

LMAO... Really??? Yea, let's proceed. So the police don't have to have a reasonable, articulable suspicion, huh? What law school did you go to?? Maybe I can help you get a refund.

4)Could not find one story about white cops arrested for DWI in the latest 14 day archives of Ledger or Bergen Record (oddly enough, didnt find any story about black cops arrested for DWI either...)

Proves my point.

5)See #4

That's what I thought.

6)Now it gets dicey...refer to #3 again to refresh..If what you say is accurate that he was parked somewhere sleeping one off, and the cop or cops knocked on his window to check on his condition and he wakes up and says "hey guys, I'm the NPD chief, just taking it easy for a minute...", we probably never hear of the incident, end of story.

a. He wasn't the Police Chief then.
b. You assume that he did not speak to them in that manner.

Or, maybe they knocked on the window and were greeted with "what the fuk do you want? Dont you know who I am, I've dont more this year than you will do your whole career.." etc, etc.. Of course the cops are not going to take kindly to that and they will press the issue and win, which they did.

a. If he did say that to them so what. What is illegal in what he said.
b. Again you prove my point. So the police might be prone and moved to anger by someone talking slick to them but not to a Black man talking slick to them?? LMAO.

7)Any cop involved in incident as depicted above in #6 would have been on the wrong end of things, color has nothing to do with it.

Bullsh** and you know it. I see white cops get away with all kinds of illegal crap like car accidents, busting up nightclubs, assault, DUIs, ect. i have also seen Black cops get arrested and/or disciplined for the exact same things white cops get away with.

[Outside]

Pro, really like that red writing, you're the man!!

Oh, and that "LMAO", very witty....


You have any cop connections? Any lawyers at your disposal to pop a few questions off? If so, PLEASE ask them if it is illegal or improper or immoral, or wrong in any way FOR ANY POLICE OFFICER IN THIS COUNTRY TO ASK ANY CITIZEN any questions the officer may so desire, INCLUDING the person's name and address. Please, look into it. That whole reasonable articulable suspicion you referrence in NO WAY applies to contact with citizens on the street that officers encounter every day during the course of their duties.

*If you would like to debate the protections afforded citizens pertaining to improper questioning by Police, please know, wise one, that the protections come from what citizens are bound to answer, not what Police can ask*

As far as what was said and in what manner, as I indicated, I was showing how things could have gotten out of control.

And as far as me proving your point (as you seem fond of writing) if the cops encountered a man acting in a belligerent manner toward them, who was in a parked car (as you stated), then would that not highten their suspicion as to his mindset and whether he may have been under the influence while operating a MV? (keep in mind that a man behind the wheel of a PARKED auto with the keys in the ignition can still be arrested for DWI AND a person IN A CAR can be requested to show the paperwork for that auto whether ANY improper offense(s) were observed by the police....again, feel free to look that up or ask somebody who might know what they are talking about)

Stop acting like the Chief (or Captain or Lt, or Sgt or whatever he was at the time of this encounter) got jacked up because he was black, and start considering the possibility that he got cuffs slapped on because he is a bad drunk.

Lastly, I checked with a couple guys I know and learned 2 things (actually, I will say I was told 2 things, you can look into it further and let me know if its accurate, if you are having as much fun with this topic as I am....) 1) 2 charges were dropped by the PD and the Chief plead guilty to DWI agreeing to attend AA for 6 months, he never went. 2)The NPD assigned a female officer to be his personal driver for the 6 months his DL was suspended (nice perk for NOT being a Chief!!!!!!)


I am sorry, read your post one more time, have to add another line....You seem to see alot of bad stuff happening out there with all the cop misdeeds you say you have witnessed, you're not Bradley, are you??

[LtNPD]

I really do not like gossip but a few things need to be clarified.... Chief Bradlsy was a Sergeant at the time. Ever since than he quit drinking completley and did better himself, and lets face it, he was in a township that is most likely ALL white officers that WOULD treat him differently than if he was a white police Sgt. This type of treatment is different in townships that do have more of a racial mix, we do have officers in newark (myself for example...lol) that went through the years with salt and pepper teams and we shared many a meal at each others homes, our children play together, however there are many township PD's that will treat white cops from Newark crapy just because where we work.... Thats about all I have to say I just don't think Chief Bradley should be condemned over this...

[LtNPD]

He was not driven around by a female cop, it was a male officer...please excuse miss spell Chief Bradley

[Outside]

ok, LtNPD, thanks for the imput.

I was told it was a female, and she was, or became, the man's girlfriend. I was also told her name, but have since forgotten it

[ProSouth]

First let me apologize for an error on my behalf. I looked it up and Bradley was fleeing the Rahway Police at the time of his arrest and he was driving under the influence. As a Man, I can admit when I am wrong.

Second, I do not need to ask a cop or lawyer to advise me on this issue, I am very aware of the answer. If you are simply stating that a police officer can ask questions of citizens in the course of their everyday duties I would agree, however, in the scenario of which we are speaking (or was) I was thinking more of detainment and investigate (the obvious). I surmise that a person just sleeping in his car is not just grounds alone to detain and arrest them. If after the police approach the car with the intent of making sure the occupant is alright and in the course of doing so observe something that gives them reasonable suspicion/probable cause that he was operating a motor vehicle under the influence of alcohol or that any other criminal offense was committed then the police may detain and investigate. Simple. Law 101.

As I said in my first post, I am not a Bradley fan by far, however, I stand by by statement that if Bradley was a white Sgt., clearly proven A MILLION TIMES OVER, this whole situation would have been dealt with differently. The whole psychology of the police department is racist, sexist and elitist.

Again, my apology for the mistake.