View Full Version : NPD Dealing Dope in Vailsburg
5Reasons
09-30-2004, 08:52 AM
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/essex/index.ssf?/base/news-6/1096535687161090.xml
Making $73G and STILL has to deal dope. :mad: And I wonder why things are getting worse. And, how can you deal from YOUR OWN HOUSE? That's Biggie Rule # 5....
Never sell no crack, where you rest at
I don't care if they want an ounce,
Tell em bounce.
jazzyken
09-30-2004, 10:00 AM
it pours...
black4rob2
09-30-2004, 10:11 AM
Johnson's lawyer, Anthony Fusco, said she was not a drug dealer but the victim of an abusive relationship with Onion.
"He's the culprit in this whole scenario," Fusco said. "Once all the facts come out, you will see that she was suffering from a tremendous amount of violence."
How Ironic is that...She was a cop, but was suffering from an abusive relationship with tremendous amounts of violence. These are the cops that are suppose to protect us right.. This is such BS..
Just about everyone, no matter what public position they hold, are out there for themselves, and that is why we are in such a state of turmoil.
All this stuff stems from the combination a lack of patience and GREED. Can you please tell me how one person can make $73,396 a year and still have to sell drugs. She wasn't married and i didn't hear anything about kids.. To top it off she lived in an apartment in Newark...Therefore she doesn't have a huge mortgage she has to pay off, don't have to worry about taxes, hell she doesn't have to mow the freakin lawn.
People this is sad...This is straight out of a movie...
These are the same cops that complain about not getting respect on the streets or by there superiors. Once they start showing some respect for themselves and the city that they represent, then I'll start showing some as well. What worse is that I do understand that not all cops are like this, but the few that are caught (we all know that many go undetected) ruins it for all.
5reasons...Its ironic how you used the biggie quote, when his last name is Onion....street-talk for ounce...... :D
ProSouth
09-30-2004, 06:18 PM
Newark Police have always been crooked. For Ambrose to give the knee jerk response that every Mayor and Police Director has given everytime some corruption comes to light is playing with our intelligence. As a life long resident of Newark it insults me when he says that this is just a few bad apples. It's like the multitudes of white folks who stood around and watched a Black man get hung from a tree and then burned as though they are at a concert or watching a circus act. Some even making an outing of it by having a picnic. You're going to tell me that the audience is not just as guilty as the ones who put the rope around the brother's neck or lite the fire beneath him. They did nothing to stop it or report it so they are just as guilty.
Cops who witness this behavior are just as guilty as those who did the crime. Cops don't rat on other cops. That is their code. So for Ambrose (a cop) to say these are isolated cases and just a few is just a lie.
I keep coming back to this time and time again because I think this is a good example of police corruption at it's best. In the raid on Sights the Newark Police applied for a No-Knock search warrant with an affidavit full of lies. They claimed there was prostitution, gambling and alcohol being sold at Sights. Now anyone who has ever been to Sights knows how strict they are. State law allows them to allow members to BYOB. They don't even allow that. The prostitution and gambling charge was hilarious due to the number of cameras they have in that place for their protection. Cameras everywhere, seeing everything inside and outside of the club. Their set-up is very high-tech so pin-pointing the time and date of an alledged incident was easy to do. Cuts down on the corruption especially when the corruption targets you and your business and comes from the highest ranks of the NPD.
The Newark Police and Ambrose would love for people to think that that raid was put together by a bunch of lowly cops from vice. Hell No. That investigation and raid was orchestrated by the Newark Police Intelligence Division and the Newark Chief of Police's Office. Even the detectives who did the undercover work was from the Chief of Police's Office not vice (wonder why). They had to see the affidavit and the search warrant with the lies on it. They knew that Sights had complained for years about police harassment and no one hepled them. To me when you do nothing while you know corruption is taking place you are just as corrupt.
So when I hear Ambrose say it's just a few bad apples, he sounds more rotten than all of them.
black4rob2
10-01-2004, 01:04 PM
Now anyone who has ever been to Sights knows how strict they are. State law allows them to allow members to BYOB. They don't even allow that. The prostitution and gambling charge was hilarious due to the number of cameras they have in that place for their protection.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on the prostitution charge ProSouth. I went there a couple of years ago and prostitution was very much so going on. From my perspective; it seemed as though it was not something the club promoted, but at the same token did nothing about it. So from your example in your last post that would make the club just as guilty as the few girls who did engage in such activities, because they did not try to stop it.
However, I do agree with you that they are definitely playing with our intelligene, by reporting all these lies. At the same token they are making themselves and this city look like idiots giving the same statement everytime a corruption incident comes to the forefront.
5Reasons
10-01-2004, 01:13 PM
South,
I've heard "stories" about Sights. I've also heard the new spot is ShowOffs, but that's another story. ;)
sportyjoe
10-01-2004, 03:00 PM
I can't wait to hear this response Pro.
Miss Tam-Tam
10-01-2004, 03:22 PM
<<A state grand jury indicted a Newark police officer yesterday on charges she dealt cocaine out of her home on Tuxedo Parkway in Newark.>>
I once owned a home in Vailsburg. At that time, the drug dealers were very firmly entrenched on their "turf" in that sector of the city. I can recall telephoning the Newark Police department and complaining that they really needed to do something. It was brazen, open-air dealing right on Mt. Vernon. The typical response from the desk sergeant always was that they "needed to get our guys out there to do some buys." The usual bull. The following is an example of the multi-faceted manner in which the scourge of drugs undermines communities: One of the drug dealing kingpins got involved with a neighbor's wife. He was supplying the Mrs. The hubby got wind of it and told Mr. Superfly to leave wifey alone. One morning, walking back from the candy store for a newspaper, the hubby got a beat-down from the kingpin's drug crew with bicycle chains, ecetera. His blood was on the sidewalk; eyeglasses shattered. He was in tears and, afraid for his life, begged us *not* to report it to the police. He moved out, didn't look back. Wifey continued to live in house alone with small child. She eventually was reported to DYFS for child neglect: hair-raising scenario when child was found alone walking down the middle of the street. House soon went up for sale. All falls down. End of story.
ProSouth
10-02-2004, 01:35 AM
I have been to Sights many times for both personal and professional reasons. I for one make no bones about the fact that I think Sights is the best run club in the city..period. As I have stated the owner of the club has been a personal friend of mine for many years. When I say it is the best run club in the city and it is the only club in the city that I know of where Black men go and come in peace. No gang issues, no fights, no drinking, no drugs, no gambling and definately no prostitution. Most clubs where exotic dancing takes place is accused of prostitution. Black owned clubs much more than white owned clubs. The owner oif Sights is very pro-active in protecting his club against any TRUTH of prostitution claims. They do things that other clubs never even think of doing to protect it's members and it's managers. I totally disagree with you when you say the club does nothing to stop prostitution that is farthest from the truth.
1. They have video cameras everywhere except the bathrooms.
2. Everyone entering the club must sign an agreement stating that they will not engage in any illegal activity.
3. Everyone entering the club is told in writing to report all attempts by anyone trying to engage in prostitution to club management.
4. There are many, many signs all over the club stating the prohibition of prostitution.
5. They keep a log with the names, profile and photo of dancers and members they kick out of the club for attempting to engage in prostitution.
6. They pay the workers a $100.00 reward for members and dancers they catch doing something illegal.
7. They employ a private detective agency to work undercover as members to see if dancers are engaging in prostitution.
These are the very expensive steps they take to protect themselves and their club from the rumors. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying that some dancers don't try to engage in prostitution. But what I am saying is that this club does EVERYTHING they can think of to make sure that they stamp it out. They had a pretty good security system before that raid 2 years ago. Since then they have created a system that I have rarely seen in many most businesses. When I say they see everything I mean everything. They digitally record the inside and outside of that club 24 hours per day with cmers that zoon, pan, ect. They even have cameras with night vision to see in the dark. Most of this is so that the moment they are accused of engaging in something illegal they will have video documented proof. If I were engaging in something illegal I sure as hell am not going to videotape it. They have a control room with about 10 security monitors. I was there one night when I believe someone in the control room saw a dancer get a little too frisky with a member and the bouncers threw them both out.
After the raid on the club 2 years ago, the Prosecutor's Office questioned some of the dancers about whether or not the management allowed and tolerated prostituion. All of the dancers interviewed said that the club was strict against such prostitution and would ban you from the club if caught.
Again, as a long time friend of the owner of Sights I know he is a man of integrity. He is one of the most laid back, casual, pro-Black brothers I know. He helps other Brothers and Sisters get into business.
One other thing. If a prostitute goes to let's say Hobbies and solicits business from diners there without the owners knowing it, is Hobbies engaging in prostitution or is the prostitute. Hobbies is guilty if they know there is prostitution taking place in their restaurant and do nothing to stop or prevent it in the future. Sights does more than any club I know of or have ever been to.
I have asked the owner of Sights to join Newark Speaks and give his side of the things. He's seems a bit apprehensive but said he'll think about it. I think it would be interesting to ask him questions about what really happened during that raid a couple of years ago, especially regarding all of the politics surrounding it. He says he'll let me know tomorrow.
5Reasons
10-02-2004, 09:44 AM
South,
I don't care about what happens in Sights. However, I do care that TWO MORE NEWARK POLICE OFFICERS are on the front page of today's Star Ledger. One is named Red and the other is Mr. Hightower. These jokers are making 70G per year (not counting the over time they racked up) and THEY STILL have to shake down drug dealers.
Ron is CORRECT - we need a civilian review board. The Newark cops CANNOT police themselves.
ProSouth
10-02-2004, 10:31 AM
I respect that but the reason why I speak so forcefully about it is because I believe most Newarkers especially Black folks slept on what really happened. What they went through many Newark businesses go through. It is not just exclusive unto Sights. We need small business in this city. If police corruption thwarts any business we all should be concerned. Unfortunately the cost of doing business in Newark becomes more expensive when you have to prepare for and protect yourself from police corruption as a part of doing business.
I have spoken to mom and pop businesses in Newark who have been put either out of business or have been put through financial hardship due to excessive legal costs of fighting police corruption. I have spoken with bar owners who have been continuosly harassed by Newark ABC and cited for the same infractions other bars are allowed to operate under. Some have also complained of having restrictions and contingencies placed upon their licenses that add thousands of dollars to the cost of doing business in Newark.
The police setting up any business for failure costs all of us.
5Reasons
10-02-2004, 12:39 PM
Yep, if you have a neighborhood business, it's better to support the right candidate OTHERWISE they will be conducting very THOROUGH inspections. Your papers betsta be correct.
But South, this is the United States of Newark. We're a country onto ourselves where down is up and up is down.
The question is: when will this sh!t stop? And, will we EVER get a set of "leaders" that will at least but Newarkers first?
I'm not naive. I expect all of these jokes to 'profit' from their activities. But for Christ sakes, can you make that a side matter in how we do business in Newark? You can get rich and help the people all in one motion. But these guys have been inside the bubble for far too long. They just don't understand.
ProSouth
10-02-2004, 02:36 PM
It frustrates the hell out of me. This pay to play (newark-style ) crap and who's side were you on during the election politics BS is sickening. When will it end? It is really killing our small business enterprise. You bust your hump to start a business and then if you are on the wrong side of the political team you can lose it.
But from an African American perspective, you know what really gets me is there seems to be no Black Loyalty from our leaders. Each and every black politician in Newark should be breaking their backs to encourage, support and protect Black business in Newark. They do not. Black folks are out there to fend for themselves. Then what should Black folks vote for Black politicians for ? Our leaders play the "I'm Black give me your vote" crap until you need them, then it's "I'm not just the politician of Black folks, I the politician of all Newark citizens". This attitude alone shows our inability to help our own. No other people have this self destructive, anti-self mentality but us. The Portugese don't have this mentality; the Jews don't share this mentality; and even the Hispanics don't share this mentality. Just us. Being Pro-Black does not mean being anti anyone else. Help your Brother and Sister succeed by showing them you care about them because you share a history and a stuggle together that is unique and like soldiers in a war our struggle alone should make us bust our ass for each other.
Let white folks play those back-stabbing games with each other. We should look beyond petty personal differences and see the greater good.
black4rob2
10-04-2004, 04:27 PM
:( It frustrates the hell out of me. This pay to play (newark-style )
Let white folks play those back-stabbing games with each other. We should look beyond petty personal differences and see the greater good.
That would be like asking a cracking head for the last hit! :mad:
John Sharpe James, J.D.
10-04-2004, 08:18 PM
AFRICAN-AMERICAN cops sticking it to other african americans. Sharpe and the council weren't out there telling them to engage in these illegal activities. Don't blame politics. Sharpe ain't a cop and surely didn't tell these cops to shake anybody down. No matter WHO the Mayor or Council is folks should be responsible for their actions.
If I follow your train of thought Prosouth then maybe we should lock up some of these parents for what their children (who live with them) do. I will never blame an elected official for what and INDIVIDUAL does illegally unless they were doing it illegally for that official!
The cops were corrupt and got greedy on their own. Thank god the community was able to inform the NPD who turned the case over to the ATTNY GENERAL. Thats the way it is supposed to happen.
Hell, in NYC entire Precincts have been indicted/arrested. Why is it blown out of proportion in Newark?
5Reasons
10-04-2004, 09:17 PM
John,
You are on a roll today. You're doing more tap dancing than White Shoes Johnson at the All American Negro Review of 1918. All you need to do now is get a tux and dress up in white face and you're good to go.
The facts are these, John. Newark IS NOT NYC. Police, while admitting they have their own queer subculture, TAKE THEIR QUES from their leaders. If an atmosphere of unaccountability and curruption is the norm in City Hall, then cops are apt to act within that norm out on the field. Sort of like with parents - kids only get away with WHAT IS ALLOWED. Now if it was ONE or TWO cops that was bad, then that would be understandable. What we have here, John, is something far more SYSTEMIC and lasting for a SIGNFICANT TIME FRAME. This excludes the notion of randomness of these criminal and ethical violations. In the end, City Hall, Sharpe, the police leaders and the street level police bureaucrats must be held accountable for these failings.
As great as Sharpe James has been to Newark, the idea that he permeates an aura of "ethical, moral leadership" is dubious.
Note: James did a good job to preserve jobs over this recession. He gets props for riding out the worst recession in years without dramatic service cuts or large NON-COURT ORDERED tax increases. However, when you get elected in 2006, you guys are going to have to run up the credit card in order to restructure Newark for the 1st half of the 21st Century. By that time, however, I hope you would have taken your white paint off.
John Sharpe James, J.D.
10-04-2004, 09:45 PM
Booker will take all the heat he can handle when crime really starts to go up :D
P.S. Why didn't Guliani take heat when entire precincts and departments were corrupt?
Was Diallo shooting ever blamed on Mayor? No. It was blamed on the unit who did the crime. But in Newark, change the Mayor and folks like you think everyone becomes saintly.
God Bless you if you believe everyone in the city takes their cues from the Mayor. You sound like Bush. Kill Saddam and the war will stop, "Mission Accomplished"....well he was WAY OFF. Cops have a mentallity of their own and do what they want. Explain why Atlanta had a rash of misconduct by demoralized cops THIS year. Surely aint the Mayor...it isn't that simple!
See links
http://www.cyberessays.com/Politics/141.htm
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/corrupt.htm
http://hrw.org/reports98/police/
http://wsbradio.com/news/081303cop.html
Life in Newark is bigger than City Hall
ProSouth
10-04-2004, 10:23 PM
You and I both have lived in Newark all of our lives and in our 30 something lifetime we have both seen plenty in the way of police corruption in Newark, from the rank of Police Director on down. What gets me the most about police corruption in Newark is the silence of our elected officials when our police behave this way. You compared us to NYC, but let me tell you eventhough I think Guiliani was a racist, in response to a community outcry regarding corrupt police he instituted the CPR (Courtesy, Professionalism and Respect) Program that all NYC police officers must follow. It may have been a BS response but it was atleast a response. What do we get. Nothing. If Sharpe (not Ambrose) had come out and said something to make the citizens feel more like he was doing something personally to protect the people of Newark from crooked cops I know for one I would say he's making an effort to protect me.
Now I know that the Mayor or the council did not personally instruct these cops to do illegal acts but the silence from them is deafening. Where are the sponsored ordinances from the council? Where are the directives from the Mayor? The mayor must have control over the police when they do good and when they do bad. Sharpe spoke endlessly about the drop in crime in Newark while Santiago was Police Director. He took every opportunity to use crime stats to his advantage because they made him look good. However now you don't hear that same ranting, because the honeymoon is over. If a dirty cop does some corrupt crap, Sharpe and the council needs to take responsibility because it happened on their watch. That's what they were elected for. Why isn't Corchado (the only cop on the council) speaking out about his fellow brethren? It's too silent? Now lets go back a few years when I believe it was Michele Jones, Newark Tax Director and her family was pulled over by I believe it was Millburn and South Orange Police leaving the mall in what was believed to be a corrupt manner. Sharpe was very vocal about the police in that case involving her and gave several statements to the media about how the stop was racially motivated, etc. Where is the hue and cry for the citizens that were besieged upon by Newark's finest.
And Ambrose I think is a baffoon. He is a Santiago wannabe. There has always been a huge air of corruption surrounding him for years with questions of how he got to be police chief and rumors that he paid $$$ to get the spot, a supposed on-going Federal investigation of him, questions for years about his "ownership" of C&J Towing and their city towing contract, etc. So he's got some issues as well.
For the record, I like Sharpe, I just don't like some of his policies when it comes to dealing with none "connected", plain old nobody citizens of Newark. And to me the council is no better.
Oh and btw Brother John, to answer your question I do think that parents should be held accountable for they're children's actions.
Just a few of my humble thoughts Big Brother...... :)
ProSouth
10-04-2004, 10:54 PM
"By 2006 he'll be U.S. Senator James"
Sharpe takes Corzine's spot as U.S. Senator.
Corzine becomes Governor.
Booker & Rice fight it out.
John get's an At-Large spot on either the Booker ticket or the Rice ticket.
You guys are better than me at this political speculation stuff but sounds interesting.
John Sharpe James, J.D.
10-04-2004, 11:04 PM
My whole point is that in a department as large as Newark's, and other large metropolitan departments, there will ALWAYS be cops tempted by the cash in the streets, there will ALWAYS be cops who abuse their authority. Cops could care less about who the Mayor or council because they know they will remain cops no matter who wins. Unfortunately, I have NO excuse for the cop who was dealing drugs.
Keeping in mind that NO agency as large as Newark is perfect, knee jerk responses from councilmen or the Mayor on individual corruption probes are not warranted. No new ordinance would apply to those indicted so let the Attorney General do his probe and convict those who violated the law.
No Mayor or councilmember wants this bad press! It stinks!
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