NJN Played Clips of Rone Yesterday (8/17/08)

[5Reasons]

Just in case you missed it, NJN played clips of Dana and her infamous incident. Jim Hooker (sp?) said that Rone had agreed to do an interview but when she got to the studio and found out that actual CLIPS were going to be shown, her lawyer yanked her. :rolleyes: This incident only makes Rone look worse. :(

When playing the clips for the audience, I wasn't shocked but more amused that Rone kept saying things like, "I'm the first councilwoman" and "Did you see my MG plates?" and, of course, "Don't you know who I am?" Rone, my lady, I hate to tell you: the average Newarker couldn't pick you out of a crowd. :o You see most folk are too busy trying to make ends meet and not trying to buddy up with the political class.

I had two primary thoughts when listening to Rone. First, given her statements, maybe she really does believe she's a HISTORIC FIGURE. Of course, now that she's history, I guess the title is somewhat more appropriate. And second, how come she keeps calling this cop "brotha"" The collequial term was inappropriate given the situation. Listening to it, however, I couldn't help but also feel disappointment.

Note: There wasn't a clearly abusive, bullying tone in the recordings. Instead it was all sort of, well, human, sordid and awkward. I couldn't help but feel sorry for Dana. She had a tone of "I'm important, too" but there was something of a touch of inferiority to it. I can't quite describe it accurately other than to say it didn't have to come to this.

[section08]

http://www.njn.net/television/webcast/ontherecord.html

and fast forward to 18:40

[Miss Tam-Tam]

http://www.njn.net/television/webcast/ontherecord.html

and fast forward to 18:40

Thanks for the link to the video, Section 8.

Rone kept repeating that she could not believe that the officers did not know who she was. Well, I guess we can assume that just about everyone knows who Dana Rone is today.

So the Chief of the Newark Police Department is on call for crap like this? Is there an understanding among council members that when they get caught with their pants down, all they have to do is call Campos to get out of a jam? 'Cause that the gist I get from Dana's rant is that Campos is the designated fixer when council egos blow up?

Can I call Chief Campos when I get pulled over by the police?

Tragic and pathetic.

[Miss Tam-Tam]

Just in case you missed it, NJN played clips of Dana and her infamous incident. Jim Hooker (sp?) said that Rone had agreed to do an interview but when she got to the studio and found out that actual CLIPS were going to be shown, her lawyer yanked her. :rolleyes: This incident only makes Rone look worse. :(


Being that Dana is still pursuing her case through the courts, what on earth made her decide to even think about appearing on television. She had to have known that she would be asked about the traffic stop. What was she thinking?

Some people cannot be saved from themselves.

[RACEMATTERS]

Just in case you missed it, NJN played clips of Dana and her infamous incident. Jim Hooker (sp?) said that Rone had agreed to do an interview but when she got to the studio and found out that actual CLIPS were going to be shown, her lawyer yanked her. :rolleyes: This incident only makes Rone look worse. :(

When playing the clips for the audience, I wasn't shocked but more amused that Rone kept saying things like, "I'm the first councilwoman" and "Did you see my MG plates?" and, of course, "Don't you know who I am?" Rone, my lady, I hate to tell you: the average Newarker couldn't pick you out of a crowd. :o You see most folk are too busy trying to make ends meet and not trying to buddy up with the political class.

I had two primary thoughts when listening to Rone. First, given her statements, maybe she really does believe she's a HISTORIC FIGURE. Of course, now that she's history, I guess the title is somewhat more appropriate. And second, how come she keeps calling this cop "brotha"" The collequial term was inappropriate given the situation. Listening to it, however, I couldn't help but also feel disappointment.

Note: There wasn't a clearly abusive, bullying tone in the recordings. Instead it was all sort of, well, human, sordid and awkward. I couldn't help but feel sorry for Dana. She had a tone of "I'm important, too" but there was something of a touch of inferiority to it. I can't quite describe it accurately other than to say it didn't have to come to this.


She is the first woman elected to the CW-after this incident it might be the last. But it is an historic feat for her to be the first female elected, I just wish a woman it didnt have to end like this because this will be what she is most remembered for, not her being the first.

I do agree with u on most people not knowing who she is- I think unless u been on the council for years like maybe mildred or quintana-most people wont recognize you.

[Mark J.]

Human, sordid and awkward. Such is the poetry of all our petty strivings. Thank you for that summary.

[RealVest]

Dealing with the police is like dealing with credit card customer services reps and asking for a credit on a late fee because you "didn't mean to be late."

Respect is EXTREMELY important when speaking to people who seek positions of extreme authority. Regardless if a person wants to be a cop because they want to service their country, state, government or law, or because they want to be able to compensate for a lack of power they felt they always should have, they still do enforce the laws of the United States and carry a firearm that is lethal and one that only they are legally allowed to carry in the United States. (with the exception of retiree's, off duty, etc.)

The heat of the moment, with the added "I'm a council person with plates." PLUS the whole, "everyone did it when sharpe was mayor" doesn't really fly anymore. Not to mention Rutgers police have been known to ticket NPD in the past. Rumor or not, you have to approach people with respect if you want a favor. I am sure if her demeanor was different the story would have panned out different. After her comments, these guys must have loved getting the higher-up's putting a stamp of approval on the arrest while knowing she is a government official.

It's a shame that NJN played the tapes because they were pretty ugly.

[The Game Of Politics]

This small incident was blown out of proportion. The entire audio and video of the incident (not just the small clips) shows that Ms. Rone was only doing what every politician in Newark has done from the year Newark was incorporated. Many here are fooling themselves if they think that it does not happen with the present Mayor and Council.

The problem with this incident was not what Ms. Rone said, it was Booker's henchmen allowing it to progress.

Think for a moment.

-Are there councilpersons who are presently driving city owned vehicles with suspended licenses?

-How many councilpersons have been written traffic tickets that have disappeared?

-How many other councilpersons have come to the rescue of relatives in incidents with the police in Newark as well as other cities?

-Has anyone connected with Booker ever come to the legal rescue of councilpersons arrested in other cities?

-What is the role of people like Elnardo Webster II to Cory Booker?

-How is Osario still a sworn police officer and Ms. Rone made to forfeit her office?

-Where is the investigation into Fire Director David Giordano's alleged assault of EMT workers at the scene of an accident?

-Was Police Chief Campos called to the scene of the Giordano incident? Did he respond? Did Campos escort him from the scene or did he arrest him?

Rone was set up after the fact. Booker's handlers who came to the aid of McCarthy, Osario, Giordano and a few unnamed councilpersons seem to have allowed her to drown.

Osario and Giordino's actions were worst.

[5Reasons]

Bottom line is that Dana should apologize to Newark, PERIOD. She misused her office and now she is a historic figure. :rolleyes: She had a cruise job and figured out a way to muff it up. Now it's over and she has to pick up the pieces. Promoting the conspiracy does not change the fact that she invoked her office to an officer to try to win favor for a family member. And be clear, if the State's ATTORNEY GENERAL can go down for an incident, then surely a half-term councilman from Newark will go down too. It amazes me the denial on this subject. Were you the kid in 3rd grade that got caught talking in class that then said, "Well Bill was talking too". If so, then you missed the lesson of that punishment. THERE IS NO TALKING IN CLASS!

[Make Newark Clean]

Who pays for the Rutgers police? Maybe this tuition-raising (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080717/NEWS/80717049), stadium envious (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/rutgers_to_scale_back_stadium.html) university can find cost containment in cutting back an apparently overstaffed police department that has time to tool around off-campus looking for black men not using blinkers. Doesn't Newark end up with the ticket revenue anyway? Why did they really stop this kat?

Rone was wrong, yes. But I'm sick of this type of overpolicing aimed at black men. No wonder its hard to find a snitch. They're all p'd off from being treated like criminals for driving while black. :mad: :mad:

^

[Diamond]

Dana Rone, "ya ghetto girl".:D


All jokes aside, I clearly see Dana's point regarding the Officer's conduct toward her nephew. Since when can an officer "tow" a vehicle for improper lane change?:rolleyes: This was TOTALLY blown out of portion and Dana should GET HER JOB BACK.


btw- Where did she use her authority?:confused: I believe that because she left her identification home, she wanted the Chief to come down and Identify her; since Rutgers PD didn't know who she was. Are those officer's from Newark?

[5Reasons]

Who pays for the Rutgers police? Maybe this tuition-raising (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080717/NEWS/80717049), stadium envious (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/rutgers_to_scale_back_stadium.html) university can find cost containment in cutting back its apparently overstaffed department that apparently has time to tool around off campus looking for black men not using blinking lights. Doesn't Newark end up with the ticket revenue anyway? Why did they really stop this kat?

Rone was wrong, yes. But I'm sick of this type of overpolicing aimed at black men. No wonder its hard to find a snitch. They're all p'd off from being treated like criminals for driving while black. :mad: :mad:

^

Dude, before you go from a generalization to apply it to the case, make sure you know the actors. While I don't disagree that there is overpolicing of blacks, the officer in question has a VERY HIGH standard for integrity. I expect more from you, MNC.

I am almost 100% certain that the kid would have only gotten a ticket if it hadn't been escalated by an elected official that thought SHE WAS THE LAW. She isn't and now she's a historic figure. You guys trying to justify Rone are just nuts. Can you imagine what it would be like if all elected offcials could just wantonly call in favors for relatives whenever they want? Where do you draw the line? :rolleyes: And you wonder where the fast-hustle mentality comes from or how a knucklehead like Sharpe could get away with the crap he got away with? Give me a break. Imagine you're that officer. You work, you're doing your job and then this kid just starts driving eratically down a block that has all kinds of mechanisms designed to control and SLOW traffic. You pull him over and then suddenly you're being badgered by some middle-aged woman in a robe. :confused: What would you do?

[nom de plume]

Who pays for the Rutgers police? Maybe this tuition-raising (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080717/NEWS/80717049), stadium envious (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/rutgers_to_scale_back_stadium.html) university can find cost containment in cutting back its apparently overstaffed department that apparently has time to tool around off campus looking for black men not using blinking lights. Doesn't Newark end up with the ticket revenue anyway? Why did they really stop this kat?

Rone was wrong, yes. But I'm sick of this type of overpolicing aimed at black men. No wonder its hard to find a snitch. They're all p'd off from being treated like criminals for driving while black. :mad: :mad:

^So, if it was Adubato's nephew it would be ok and what if Steve reacted the same way? The fact is she tried to use her position to help her nephew. What amazes me is that she and other politicians feel they are so entitled and they can usurp the laws with no repercussions.

[Nwrbr]

So, if it was Adubato's nephew it would be ok and what if Steve reacted the same way? The fact is she tried to use her position to help her nephew. What amazes me is that she and other politicians feel they are so entitled and they can usurp the laws with no repercussions.

The same can be said of police officers.

[ProSouth]

The same can be said of police officers.What Dana did cops do every 5 minutes. Wonder why no law for cops who do this? Cops "ON THE JOB" always get exactly what Dana was looking for.

Cops and their families get all types of "Courtesies".

What I heard on that tape was mild compared to what cops have done to get out of tickets, ect. There have also been fist fights between cops for doing far less than what Dana did.

Question.....When was the last time anyone here has heard of cops getting their drivers license suspended for not paying tickets or even the last time you have seen a warrant issued to a cop for tickets or a moving violation or a cop in court because of an outstanding warrant?

If Dana was a cop the Rutgers officer would have let her and her nephew go with an apology.

[Diamond]

What Dana did cops do every 5 minutes. Wonder why no law for cops who do this? Cops "ON THE JOB" always get exactly what Dana was looking for.

Cops and their families get all types of "Courtesies".

What I heard on that tape was mild compared to what cops have done to get out of tickets, ect. There have also been fist fights between cops for doing far less than what Dana did.

Question.....When was the last time anyone here has heard of cops getting their drivers license suspended for not paying tickets or even the last time you have seen a warrant issued to a cop for tickets or a moving violation or a cop in court because of an outstanding warrant?

If Dana was a cop the Rutgers officer would have let her and her nephew go with an apology.



Yep!

[nom de plume]

The same can be said of police officers.
:rolleyes: always the cops... the same can be said of doctors, lawyers, etc. It doesn't make it right.

[Nwrbr]

:rolleyes: always the cops... the same can be said of doctors, lawyers, etc. It doesn't make it right.

I didn't say it was right either way. Yet, who's going to pull over a cop in a patrol car driver while he/she is on a cell phone? Who's going to ticket a cop on duty driving without a seat belt on? It sure won't be a fellow officer.

[ProSouth]

:rolleyes: always the cops... the same can be said of doctors, lawyers, etc. It doesn't make it right.It does not make it right, but no one is talking about it either.

Dana was legally wrong. But Dana was blown out of the water because there is no "secret" system for politicians to avoid legal prosecution. Neither do lawyers or doctors. COPS DO.

If its wrong for politicians it should be double wrong for the enforcers of the law.

[Make Newark Clean]

Dude, before you go from a generalization to apply it to the case, make sure you know the actors. While I don't disagree that there is overpolicing of blacks, the officer in question has a VERY HIGH standard for integrity. I expect more from you, MNC.

I am almost 100% certain that the kid would have only gotten a ticket if it hadn't been escalated by an elected official that thought SHE WAS THE LAW. She isn't and now she's a historic figure. You guys trying to justify Rone are just nuts. Can you imagine what it would be like if all elected offcials could just wantonly call in favors for relatives whenever they want? Where do you draw the line? :rolleyes: And you wonder where the fast-hustle mentality comes from or how a knucklehead like Sharpe could get away with the crap he got away with? Give me a break. Imagine you're that officer. You work, you're doing your job and then this kid just starts driving eratically down a block that has all kinds of mechanisms designed to control and SLOW traffic. You pull him over and then suddenly you're being badgered by some middle-aged woman in a robe. :confused: What would you do?

Was he driving erratically all over the street or did he just fail to use a turn signal? Perhaps I missed something.

Anyway, clearly the greater wrong was Rone seeking to use her office to curry favor. Still, I don't believe she should be made to resign from her elected post. At the very least, I do not think her infraction rises to being banned for life from holding public office or working in a public corporation. This isn't a Rio ticket or house-hunting for a hoochie at the expense of city coffers. Getting caught Driving While Black is a real, humiliating phenomenon. However, is my crystal-clear denunciation of what she did somehow not being understood? Is there any point in spinning my words, Five?

As far as for kneejerk supporters of Rone or any politician, well you've seen enough here written by me (if you read it) to know that I would never justify going all out like she did. I even say she's wrong in the very post you cite. The punishment remains, IMHO, unduly harsh. And that's all it is: my opinion.

Peace.


^

[nom de plume]

Here's a novel idea, let your nephew get a ticket. Why are we even discussing the cops anyway (unless you're a hater)? This is about Dana not the popo.

[jimmyr]

The real issue is Dana Rone thinking she was above the law. The officer that arrested her is an African American doing his job so race should not be an issue. Dana needs to except responsibilities for her actions and move on just as Faber did when she used her office to try to influence a police officer from doing his job. In addition it does not matter if the arresting officer was from Newark because how many newark Officers live in Newark.

[Diamond]

with audio and still come up with different points of views.

I think the cops tone was a bit harsh and it's no telling how he treated her nephew, prior to her arriving on the scene. Where is the video prior to Dana's arrival?:cool:

[5Reasons]

Diamond, cut it out. It was Rone's LAWYER that wanted to RESTRICT the use of the tape. That should tell you all you need to know. Sheesh.

[Diamond]

Diamond, cut it out. It was Rone's LAWYER that wanted to RESTRICT the use of the tape. That should tell you all you need to know. Sheesh.



Prior to Dana's arrival. :cool:


btw- They never said the kid was driving reckless!

[5Reasons]

D, don't be silly on this. If you believed for a second that there was ANYTHING of value from the tape (and it does exist), then don't you think Rone's lawyers would have brought it forward? Again, Rone is a historic figure, let her go.

[jimmyr]

Dana brought this issue upon herself now she has no chance of ever holding public office again. Everyone should focus on better issues then Dana which is currently history

[Diamond]

D, don't be silly on this. If you believed for a second that there was ANYTHING of value from the tape (and it does exist), then don't you think Rone's lawyers would have brought it forward? Again, Rone is a historic figure, let her go.


and Dana's actions or lack thereof. :rolleyes: However in the video it only appears that she was informing the officer of who she was; especially since she was driving without a license :eek: and didn't have ID on her. :eek: :eek:

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.;)


It's not like she said "I'm a councilwoman and I demand you let my nephew go". Or "lets' just squash this".

I think she was amazed that she wasn't well known; if anything.


I'm letting it go now.:)

[NewarkNative]

Bottom line is that Dana should apologize to Newark, PERIOD. She misused her office and now she is a historic figure. :rolleyes: She had a cruise job and figured out a way to muff it up. Now it's over and she has to pick up the pieces. Promoting the conspiracy does not change the fact that she invoked her office to an officer to try to win favor for a family member. And be clear, if the State's ATTORNEY GENERAL can go down for an incident, then surely a half-term councilman from Newark will go down too. It amazes me the denial on this subject. Were you the kid in 3rd grade that got caught talking in class that then said, "Well Bill was talking too". If so, then you missed the lesson of that punishment. THERE IS NO TALKING IN CLASS!

Your short story about Bill talking in class is cute yet true.

This has been the best civics lesson - running your mouth as an elected official can prove crucial. Some elected officials are abusive when they speak to others - as though they have all power. Now we can understand why some officials prefer to listen more than speak - it demonstrates a greater level of control. Dana has been out of control for a long time. All the talk about how smart she is and that her position as the "first female central ward councilwoman" won't matter a hill of beans!:eek: :eek:

[brotherderek]

You can stick to any story you dream up..Fact she broke the law in a robe and slippers..Guess ,you like that type of councilperson..WOW

[jimmyr]

Thats former council because thanks to Dana the Central Ward does not have a councilperson to represent them!

[Nwrbr]

and Dana's actions or lack thereof. :rolleyes: However in the video it only appears that she was informing the officer of who she was; especially since she was driving without a license :eek: and didn't have ID on her. :eek: :eek:

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.;)


It's not like she said "I'm a councilwoman and I demand you let my nephew go". Or "lets' just squash this".

I think she was amazed that she wasn't well known; if anything.


I'm letting it go now.:)

That's what I got from the video.