What does a Christie Administration Mean for NJ Cities?

[Miss Tam-Tam]

Originally Posted by 5Reasons

3) Expect HARD mandates from the state to the NPS on administrative costs. The NPS is likely to be cut by about 200 MILLION to 300 MILLION dollars. About 100 MILLION will be shifted for charter schools. So if you're one of the suits on Cedar, you're probably facing a tough go, folks. (Note: Newark muni can probably increase funding by about 30 to 50M to blunt some of the shock, but that will probably cost the muni another 200 jobs)

Great post, Five. A drumbeat heard repeatedly in the campaign was about the percentage of the property tax dollars that fund the school system. This has been a ax sawed by those in towns outside of Newark whose tax dollars help to fund a system that -- with a few exceptions -- is failing.

[Miss Tam-Tam]

Originally Posted by 5Reasons

1) Far MORE educational choices for Newark. If you are in the charter school business (Read: Adubato), this is your lucky day. Expect to see the seat capacity of charter schools in NJ increase by 30%. But more importantly, if you are a parent and your kid is stuck in a school that's a dead end, you finally have hope.

Gee, Five, that was fast!

Christie to appear today in Newark's North Ward
By Max Pizarro, PolitickerNJ.com Reporter

NEWARK - Gov-elect Chris Christie and Lt. Gov.-elect Kim Guadagno will appear at The Robert Treat Academy this afternoon to tour the facility and to talk about charter school education, according to the Christie campaign.

The operation was founded by North Ward Democratic leader Steve Adubato.

New Jersey Network (NJN) will be airing Christie's press conference live at 1:30 PM, and will rebroadcast it in entirety at 11:30 PM.

Max Pizarro is a PolitickerNJ.com Reporter and can be reached via email at max@politicsnj.com.

[Poet]

That man is a hell of a bellwether, ain't he? No matter what happens around him, Adubato manages to always stay on top of the wave... masterful. You gotta give it to him. he's a gifted strategist.

[Make Newark Clean]

Originally Posted by Doofus1

Apathy, lazy, whatever the reason. They get the government they deserve.
BTW, Make, if the rich truly rigged the game, then why do "millionaires taxes" apply to people making $400,000 and above? Why are there surcharges on homes selling for $1mm plus? Why is there any inheritance tax? The fact is the system is rigged for special interests, like public workers unions, dual office holders, large contractors, lawyers, etc.

Whatever your saying I'm sure means something to you.

The real question is how do we get resources to take care of the demands people NEED and WANT of GOVERNMENT but have been CONVINCED FOR 35 YEARS that THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM fraud and abuse notwithstanding? This doesn't even begin to examine those who rely on state and municipal services but truly cannot afford to cough up one more cent to pay for them. Believe it or not many of the tax aggrieved didn't vote for Christie. They may not have voted for Corzine or Daggett either. They stayed home believing the whole process is rigged. Also, would people be crowing so loudly about property taxes if income actually kept apace with the cost of living? Who decides my job is worth less than what is was 10 years ago? Who decided that I can afford increasing health-care coverage expenses when my raise has been eliminated all in the name of protecting some richer group's profit (true story)?

Everyone complains. By definition, complainers are much louder than those folks who have already given up hope. That's what's frightening -- the hopelesseness. It breeds disrespect for the law and other institutions. It's been going on for a while but was particularly ramped up with Nixon's inception on a war on the poor aka a war on drugs instead of finding ways to mitigate this health issue that doesn't involve gangs snatching territory to protect illegal profits.

The bottom line seems to be that NJ, including yourself if I'm not mistaken, want it all. They want hundreds of tiny homerule fiefdoms, each replete with its own mayor, police chief and fire services and school districts as well as TAX CUTS. The reform is meant to gore the other person's ox, not create change they can believe in. Maybe this is the genesis of Christie's triumphant "take back NJ" talk. (From who? WHO?)

How do we get a hold of a system that purports to align the interest of the increasing fortunes of the millionaire with the diminishing ones of the working class. When the salaries stagnate, taxes become ever more burdensome. Too often the Republicans and their acolytes find a scapegoat. Read any Newark story on NJ.com for a profile in that. What's forgotten is where has all the money gone. More jails aren't the answer to creating the type of society we want. Taxing people who cannot afford it isn't the answer. Didn't people move to towns like Summit knowing the taxes were high? If you have a high income you can afford to get what you pay for. Being peeved about it doesn't put one in the same category as a truck driver struggling to make a mortgage on a middling house.

What is the answer? Who do we really need to "take back" the state from?

[Doofus1]

How do we get a hold of a system that purports to align the interest of the increasing fortunes of the millionaire with the diminishing ones of the working class.

Vote. Or finally realize it isn't what you think.

[Make Newark Clean]

Originally Posted by Doofus1

Vote. Or finally realize it isn't what you think.

Pithy one liners are not going to solve voter apathy.


Study: Lower incomes often mean higher property taxes in N.J.





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[5Reasons]

MNC, Christie won. Deal with it. You whining about "apathy" although Corzine has done little for the average Newarker is kind of silly. What liberation project do you believe CC will take away that Corzine sponsored?

And this rhetoric about the rich taking everything in New Jersey highlights, frankly, your lack of knowledge about how NJ's state government is funded. I've talked DIRECTLY to the folks that used to run the budget in Trenton under McGreevey. Their whole scheme was based on funding NJ through capital gains. The rich, not you and I, overwhelmingly funded the state government. The problem is when the market isn't rising, you blow holes in the budget at 20% to 30% a year (you know, like the one we have now). By overrelying on the rich, you create an unstable revenue source. When the Dems devised this scheme, it appeared that the rich would always get richer. Today that is not the case. In addition, you drive capital out of NJ -- which has been happening.

I'm not sure what poverty paradise you want. And I'm not sure you're a credible source since when it came time for you to put down roots, you hauled a$$ to Linden, but that is the way it is.

You get another shot at this in four years. Live with it, bro.

[coloredboy]

Originally Posted by Make Newark Clean

It was I. I voted for Daggett while secretly hoping Corzine would eclipse Christie anyway.

Seriously, I think the real tale here is that Corzine lacks charisma. The person they were busy drumming out of the Senate Presidency job, Codey, would have been a much stronger candidate, especially at a time when people aren't prone to reelecting incumbents. Corzine has already done the things that Christie promises to do. He's cut government spending. He out-conserved the conservatives in this state because he had to in these times. Corzine indeed alienated a percentage of his base -- state workers -- to face up to fiscal reality. Yet throughout his whole governership he always appeared aloof. The country-gentlemen looking beard and the 96 mph accident while speeding to nowhere in particular made him seem even less of an every man.

Well, congratulations, Governor-elect Christie. To be fair, he at least paid lip service to the cities. Although he may have rode the crest of divisiveness, he largely managed to elevate his campaign a hair above it. That's heartening for our urban areas. Now Christie will have to make the tough choices -- turn the vague into cost-cutting policy. That's bound to upset a few of his supporters, especially those with whom his "Take Back New Jersey" rhetoric resounds. (Take back from whom?) I'm not happy about his civil union stances, but I think we'll be okay.

How much of his win has to do with so many people giving up on believing that elections matter? The choices are poor, but elections still do. I voted for Daggett. I do have a few regrets, but mostly anger at a system that narrows realistic choices. I guess it was just a protest vote after all. The person who changes this vacant system will be a true statesmen and a hero for New Jersey.

Congrats all you winners! The time is yours.


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He lacked a bold initiative.

A Governor without a bold initiative is like french cooking without butter.

[coloredboy]

Originally Posted by Doofus1

Apathy, lazy, whatever the reason. They get the government they deserve.
BTW, Make, if the rich truly rigged the game, then why do "millionaires taxes" apply to people making $400,000 and above? Why are there surcharges on homes selling for $1mm plus? Why is there any inheritance tax? The fact is the system is rigged for special interests, like public workers unions, dual office holders, large contractors, lawyers, etc.

So you.. ugh - scratch that. So they can sleep at night, in satin sheets.

[Make Newark Clean]

Originally Posted by 5Reasons

MNC, Christie won. Deal with it. You whining about "apathy" although Corzine has done little for the average Newarker is kind of silly. What liberation project do you believe CC will take away that Corzine sponsored?

And this rhetoric about the rich taking everything in New Jersey highlights, frankly, your lack of knowledge about how NJ's state government is funded. I've talked DIRECTLY to the folks that used to run the budget in Trenton under McGreevey. Their whole scheme was based on funding NJ through capital gains. The rich, not you and I, overwhelmingly funded the state government. The problem is when the market isn't rising, you blow holes in the budget at 20% to 30% a year (you know, like the one we have now). By overrelying on the rich, you create an unstable revenue source. When the Dems devised this scheme, it appeared that the rich would always get richer. Today that is not the case. In addition, you drive capital out of NJ -- which has been happening.

I'm not sure what poverty paradise you want. And I'm not sure you're a credible source since when it came time for you to put down roots, you hauled a$$ to Linden, but that is the way it is.

You get another shot at this in four years. Live with it, bro.

I know the rich pay more of the taxes, Five Reasons. I know they've lost SOME income due to the recession. I know that a higher income tax rate could push them to other states. I know all that.

I couldn't care less what you think of me. You should know that by now.

There's a LOT you need to get over.

Good call on the election. Unlike your one on Barack Obama, you got it right.

You're a smart brother... Good luck to you.


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